Belief Statement

We Believe

  1. The Bible is the infallible inerrant word of God
  2. God is the Only Supreme Being
  3. There is only One God in three persons: The Father, Son and Holy Spirit
  4. Jesus Christ is God incarnate in the flesh of man, born of the virgin Mary
  5. We are saved by the grace of God through faith in Jesus Christ only, not works
  6. Christ was crucified for our sins and on the third day was resurrected
  7. Christ will return – the 2nd Coming!

We DON’T Believe

  1. That there are many ways to God – Christ is the only name by which man can be saved
  2. In abortion
  3. In ANY sexual relationship outside of a marriage between a man and a woman
  4. In tithing (we give according to how the Holy Spirit leads us – not a strict 10%)
  5. Tongue speaking that’s not a recognizable language
  6. Tongue speaking as a private prayer language (I pray with the understanding)
  7. Water baptism for salvation (only as a sacrament)
  8. In Women Pastors – men should be in authority as pastor/teachers in the church
  9. In Kwanzaa
  10. In Black Liberation Theology
  11. In Afrocentric Ideology
  12. In Black History as a means of self-esteem (we only need Christ for God esteem)
  13. That White man (as entire group) is the oppressor of Black people (our oppression is from SIN)

 Modified 4/12/2015

24 Comments

  1. tounges is not the evidence that you are saved and have the holy spirit simply because Jesus never speaks about you needing to speak in other tounges to be saved.if you read the four gospels it never says that tounges is the evidence that you are saved. Two examples of this is the theif on the cross and the adulteruss women. In fact tounges was given to the believers in Acts not to unbelievers and paul clearly says in Corinthians 12:4 Now there are varieties of gifts, but the same Spirit; 5 and there are varieties of service, but uthe same Lord; 6 and there are varieties of activities, but it is the same God who empowers them all in everyone. 7 To each is given the manifestation of the Spirit for the common good. 8 For to one is given through the Spirit the utterance of xwisdom, and to another the utterance of . knowledge according to the same Spirit, 9 to another zfaith by the same Spirit, to another agifts of healing by the one Spirit, 10 to another bthe working of miracles, to another cprophecy, to another dthe ability to distinguish between spirits, to another evarious kinds of tongues, to another fthe interpretation of tongues. 11 All these are empowered by one and the same Spirit, gwho apportions to each one individually has he wills. the holy spirit is given to the believer not the unbeliever and to believe that tounges is the evidence that one is indeed saved and filled whith the holy spirit is to contradict pauls teachings in this chapter of the bible and in corithians chap 14: 26 What then shall we say, brothers and sisters? When you come together, each of you has a hymn, or a word of instruction, a revelation, a tongue or an interpretation. Everything must be done so that the church may be built up. 27 If anyone speaks in a tongue, two—or at the most three—should speak, one at a time, and someone must interpret. 28 If there is no interpreter, the speaker should keep quiet in the church and speak to himself and to God. and ephesians 2:8 where it says For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith–and this not from yourselves, it is the gift of God–

    1. i also want to add that i am an ex oneness pentacostal and argued that tounges was the evidence that one had the holy spirit. I was led to the truth be reading my bible and i could no longer deny the covictions that i felt for so long that this doctrine was false and not of God it was a very hard decision for me cause i was really close to my church family but i had to make a choice to forsake that wich was not of God for my lord and savior.

      1. Amanda I commend you for boldly stepping away from false teaching! You clearly saw the truth and by faith and understanding of God’s word, you made the difficult decision to leave.

        Thank you for sharing your testimony of your ex-oneness pentecostal experience!

  2. Why don’t you believe in speaking in tongues as the evidence of receiving the Holy Ghost? That is the way it happened in the Bible.
    — Acts 2.

  3. Micheal to answer your question Christ is the only way cause God is specific. Ill use this for an example lets say i was giving you directions to my house and i told you you needed to get on I 290 take exit 16 go right on may street and its the fourth house on the right and that the only way to my house and you said no i think i,m gonna take I90 get of at exit 16 and take left on main and that’s how you were gonna make it to my house.Sound a bit ridiculous? God knows the way to his house and gives a very specific set of directions John 14:6

    New International Version (NIV)

    6 Jesus answered, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.

  4. Interesting perspective Madison.
    As a philosopher and theologian I am not quite certain what the term nonsensical means, since it is perspective dependent and your perspective is not stated.
    perhaps for you nonsenical means not logical which is a hugely fallacious statement since logic changes with time. for instance, the logic of 200 years ago was discredited and then again has been reasserted (the term logiston should be researched here).
    the assumption about the world being cured and not starving assumes, or seems to, that the there are not people in the world who choose to put personal comfort, aggrandisement, or pursuit above the well being of others. As a result, people can undue the good that others do, for instance the existence of the Soviet Union experiment or the Communist Chinese experiment.
    What Carlotta is espousing is not about forcing or coercing others to think, behave, or respond in a specific manner, but rather offering a place for discussion about a certain set of beliefs and personal values that can be chosen and personally acted upon. Too bad you can not respect that and let her live in the manner she wishes like you want for yourself.
    As a former university professor what i have found is that, and i do not know if you fit this description, many times people condemning people who chose religions, religious perspectives, or even the chosing to live via a religious set of principles seem to feel justified in doing so. The condemnation frequently centers on statements related to religious people imposing their perspective on others and not letting others live their lives, similar to what you have done to religious people without having thought through the implications of your own statements about what a world should be like when religious people live in it. Perhaps it is worth considering what the world would be like if there were not people chosing to live by a set of religious principles that put the welfare of others on the same level as welfare of self.
    OBTW: can you name a single atheistic country that has existed for more than 50 years that has not killed a substantial number of its population to maintain its leaderships sense of power? I know I can not.

  5. “Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth in me, the works that I do shall he also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father.”

    Um. the world should be cured by now and noone left starving if that statement is true! and also if jesus is god, then believers should have more power than god? how does that work? nonsensical…

    not once anywhere in the bible does it say “jesus was nailed to a cross” only a few times does it say he was hung on a tree, and saul made most of those claims so why is the cross made into an idol?

    and why is everyone waiting for his return if he stated that when 2 or 3 are gathered I am there…

    everyone acts like god left us, he is inside all of us, we are all made in his image.

    silly website for a silly world

  6. Carlotta,

    Amen!! Praise the Lord. It is so refreshing to find Christians who really value the Bible and live by it. I look forward to follwoing your blog. I will request friendship on facebook now. I really don’t understand how the church overlook so many things from the Word. It is as if they are completely blinded. I really have a special heart for married women raising their own children. I have been sole caretaker for my children with much sacrifice, and I would do it again. I also believe that after school your children should be with the mother (this is when a lot of mischief takes place).

  7. Carlotta,

    I noticed you didnt make any mention of women preachers/pastors. What is your belief of this? My beliefs line up with yours listed so far.

  8. Roger, yes I do belong to the Rock Church. It is growing so fast its unbelievable! Pastor Miles holds five services each Sunday, serving over 12,000 people.

    Just over four years ago we were borrowing San Diego State’s campus for our services. On the 24th of this month, we will be celebrating our 1 year anniversary of our new building.

    It is a megachurch now but the small groups are its heart and soul! If I didn’t belong to small groups, I would feel completely lost in this church. But that’s one of the reasons Pastor Miles urges people to quickly find a small group to belong to.

    Pastor Miles is a Product of the Calvary Church system. Most of our pastors here in San Diego that have the thriving churches come from some of the Calvary Church offshoots.

  9. naturalsystah: How do you feel about the extended family – grandma, aunts and so on?

    The extended family is great as a support to the mother and father of children. I had that support, especially after my divorce. But I made it a point that no one was raising my children other than me, and that the extended were the family the kids visited!

    But I loved it when the kids got out of line and Grandpa whipped their butts if I wasn’t around! Kids need to know that no one is going to take their mess but that they would also be loved!

    I’m saddened now because the extended family is so far apart. Aunts and Uncles in one place, grandparents in another, cousins not around and etc. It used to be family was all in one city, but now folks have to plan vacations to see one another, or worse, not see anyone until funerals!

    Good question you posed!

  10. oh ok. thanks for the clarification Carlotta! :-) So you attend the Rock Church in San Diego? Pastor Miles used to come and teach at our church back in the day… I attend CC Downey btw. How are things going over there?

    Roger

  11. I’d say to Michael that Jesus isn’t “a western god”. European indigenous peoples worship a multitude of idols. The misconception that Christianity is a western construct is prevalent due to many historical and sociological reasons.

    The true Jesus of the Bible is the only true and living God.

    Carlotta – wow what a clear statement of faith! Regarding number 5: “In daycare, after school care or Nannies. Mothers raise their own children (if married).” How do you feel about the extended family – grandma, aunts and so on? I was with my mother and father most of my childhood, but having older loving people I can count of was the source of many wonderful memories :) I think that having a good family network can ease some of the pressures of raising children.

  12. Hi Roger, thanks for stopping by!

    I don’t do the 10% tithe because I believe it’s a teaching that belonged strictly to the Jewish people in the Old Testament. I do give to the church and that’s always according to how I feel led by the Spirit to do so. Sometimes above 10%, sometimes below.

    Tithing is very legalistic the way it’s used by our churches today. Although I belong to a tithing church, I don’t have a huge problem with the way the money’s being used. If my pastor was riding around in privately owned jet planes, driving Bentleys and wearing more gold than the rappers while members went hungry, then I would have a huge problem with his tithing teaching .

    But our pastor appears to have a huge heart for winning our youth to Christ, and he has built a very youth-friendly looking church to draw them. He’s sound in his preaching of salvation and is great in building the church up and unabashedly shameless when it comes to telling the truth about sin.

    So in other words, I tolerate the tithing teaching at my church – for now.

  13. “Jesus answered, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.” John 14:6

    Michael, Christ is the only way because HE says so. We Christians are only the messengers carrying the message of Christ. Christ came so that we ALL can believe in Him which makes the gospel available to all and no one is without excuse. God created us, so God can make the rules by which He wants man to come to Him.

    Now Jesus may be painted and drawn many different ways by different people, but that doesn’t change the essence of whom He is. Blacks make black Jesus’, Whites make White Jesus’ and so on and so on. I don’t care what color anyone makes Jesus, as long as His character and deity is not changed. I personally believe that the bible teaches that Jesus is Jewish, and his physical description should match the Jewish people’s bodily appearance.

    Jesus never places the importance on his ethnicity, but on whom He is: He says,
    “I told you that you would die in your sins; if you do not believe that I am the one I claim to be, you will indeed die in your sins.” – John 8:24

    So any other type of god that people place their trust in, will be met with judgment by God. Jesus is the only way to God and He died and rose again for us all!

  14. And what do you say of the billions of other people in the world who worship other manifestations of God. Is the Western man’s God, the only legitimate God? Isn’t that a bit Euro centric? Isn’t God, God, as manifested in so many different ways by the different peoples around the Globe.
    Why must Christ be the only Answer? Based on historical depictions of Christ and his world, then I guess you believe that Europeans are the only God-like people, even though we know that Jesus was born at the crossroads of Africa and Asia, i.e the Middle East. Not likely to produce blond hair, blue eyes, and pale skin as Jesus has so overwhelmingly been depicted. Haven’t you given this any thought, and the conscious and subliminal effect it must have on non-European peoples.

  15. Hey Edgar, thanks!

    Not as humorous as yours (I love the mini-skirt part), but I love your idea. I think perhaps you’ll be starting a new revolution in statements of faith!

    I’m uncomfortable anywhere and anyplace where folks are going crazy with tongues. They just don’t realize they are doing exactly as Paul said not to do in 1 Corinthians 14, not to have unbelievers thinking you’re going mad! Hey, we believers believe the same when they do that!

    I had heard about the Jesus Camp movie, but hadn’t seen it. Thanks for the forewarning!

  16. Hi Carlotta,

    Yesterday, I saw Jesus Camp (a 2006 film) and I totally dislike the speaking in tongues bit. I felt totally uncomfortable. You make a good point that speaking in tongues should be a recognizable language.

    Afrocentric Ideology. Amen to that. All things should point to Christ.

  17. You just gave me something new to add to this list: I DON’T believe in women pastoring churches or leading bible studies that have men involved. As strong-minded and independent of a woman that I am, I trust the scriptures when it says that women should not be in authority over men.

    Are we still in agreement?

  18. South, it sure IS refreshing to find like-minded fellow believers! I am very happy to hear that you are sacrificing for your children, something that I try encouraging all young mothers to do. Mine are all adults now but I can see the fruit of my labor in them. Sure, they aren’t perfect but the compliments I get regarding my children are well worth the sacrifice. The greatest joy is knowing that they all profess a belief in Christ – my number one objective as a mother!

    My facebook is quite private, but you are quite welcomed to do a friend request. Christocentric is my FB name you can find me under.

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