Tag: Prop 8

May 26, 2009

Prop 8 upheld: Anti-gay marriage but not anti-gay

Pastor Miles McPherson on CNN discussing Prop 8: glad for the ruling but feels bad for the 18,000 that stay married creating further confusion; says he’s anti-gay marriage but not anti-gay.

Update 5/27: Pastor Miles vs Comedienne Carol Leifer on Prop 8 on the Larry King Show

By a 6 to 1 vote the California Supreme Court ruled in favor of Proposition 8 while maintaining as legal the 18,000 gays who did marry before the law took effect. And why am I not thrilled about this decision? Is it because of the fighting legally, politically, socially, and spiritually that will continue forever?

I don’t know about many of you who read this, but I’m tiring of the fighting. But I will always be against gay marriage no matter how mentally and spiritually drained I become because of this ongoing conflict. Gay marriage is immoral and no matter the cry for equality, there will never be an acceptance by the general population of those immoral unions.

Should legally married gays be accepted in the Christian church?

A San Diego pastor, Jim Garlow was asked on TV news if Prop 8 would be overturned, would he recognize gay marriages in his church. His answer was rightfully no! His reason he gave was because simply it was not acceptable biblically and no gay couples would be welcomed in his church as a marriage, but would be quite welcomed as individuals.

That’s the stance any pastor should take whether or not gay marriages are legal in their state/country or providence. Any pastor should have the courage that the young 21 year old beauty queen (now 22) Carrie Prejean took that day she decided it was better not to compromise God’s standard for marriage to win an earthly crown. Too many pastors are shying away from God’s clear principles regarding marriage. Many are turning their backs completely on God’s word with their concern to please people rather than God.

Can a person be anti-gay marriage without being anti-gay?

Totally! I just completed two-weeks of traveling which included dining with my lesbian cousin and her live-in girlfriend.  I also treated my gay nephew for dinner while visiting San Francisco to bring my daughter home from college.

These individuals know my stance on their lifestyles very well as we have had some pretty heated discussions regarding homosexuality but that didn’t change the fact that I love them very much!  Anti-gay marriage, anti-homosexuality doesn’t mean we hate the person involved and this is something that many people don’t understand.

Of course, many LGBT people will always believe that if you don’t accept their lifestyles, then you automatically hate them.  Nothing much we can do about that no matter how kind we may treat them otherwise.  And if we don’t watch ourselves, we too can get caught up in bitterness and hate if we allow the animosity of the “haters” to affect us.

So yes, after seeking spiritual replenishment through God’s word, the bible and much prayer, I will continue my effort in supporting marriage between a man and a woman only while not being hateful towards the LGBTQ person!

November 15, 2008

Playing the Race Card on Gay Marriage

Excellent article by Boston Globe columnist Jeff Jacoby. He clearly shows the difference between what gays are fighting for compared to the bigotry experienced and fought by blacks during the civil rights era. He breaks it down showing examples of TRUE hatred compared to their forced cries of imagined bigotry from those against same-sex marriage.

My favorite part in his article is where he writes:

“Well, let’s see. The civil rights once denied to black Americans included the right to register as a voter, the right to cast a ballot, the right to use numerous public facilities, the right to get a fair hearing in court, the right to send their children to an integrated public school, and the right to equal opportunity in housing and employment. Have gay people been denied any of these rights? Have they been forced to sit in the back of buses? Confined to segregated neighborhoods? Barred from serving on juries? Subjected to systematic economic exploitation?”

Absolutely great writing with excellent points. The shame of gays becoming angry at blacks for not “understanding their plight” as if we share the same experiences of bigotry. We don’t and we need to get this message out to Governor Schwarzenegger and those activist judges: Gay Rights do not equal Black Civil Rights! Sexual preference is changeable but race is inherent and can never be changed.

Jacoby goes on to describe how ridiculous it is of gays trying to equate their rights to those civil rights of the past by saying:

“Plainly, declining to change the timeless definition of marriage deprives no one of “the civil rights once denied” to blacks, and it is an absurdity to claim otherwise. It is also a poisonous slur:”

He also makes the excellent point that if support of Prop 8 means we’re all bigots, then blacks are no better than the very racists who mistreated them in the past! We blacks overwhelmingly rejected same-sex marriage and why? Jeff Jacoby explains it best when he said this:

“. . . because they know only too well what real bigotry looks like.” (warning, very graphic image of lynching, something I’m sure no gay today has had to endure as a fact of life).

So the message to gays should be this: STOP PLAYING THE RACE CARD!

Please read the complete article here on the Boston Globe:

Playing the Race Card on Gay Marriage – Jeff Jacoby, Boston Globe Columnist

ADDENDUM: See California’s Governor Schwarzenegger play the race card using interracial marriages: (more…)

November 14, 2008

NEWSFLASH: Nationwide LGBT Protests

LGBT Protest Icon

The homosexual community is planning a nationwide protest on Saturday, November 15 and will probably continue throughout the year and perhaps even through next year and forever until they get their demands met. They have a website committed to providing links to area blogs and sites that give the place of each meeting. That can be found on this web page: Join the Impact!

Why the demonstrations? They said on that page:This is an issue of equality across America. Stand up and make your voice heard!”

The LGBT community is still comparing their rights to the California issue of interracial marriages and how the courts had to override the vote of the people of California in 1948 which voted to outlaw interracial marriages. What they refuse to accept is that skin color is morally neutral while sexual preferences is not! Interracial couples can marry and bare children. Interracial couples, whether having their own or through adoption, can still provide the stable environment that ALL children need, a mother and father in a true female and male biological makeup.

They are making this a campaign against hate (see their “Fight the Hate” icon above). Is that true that we who oppose them hate them? Only partially. We HATE their HOMOSEXUALITY which is outright immoral. We do not hate the individuals at all. We have the right to hate immorality. Hollywood and San Francisco and all that support them are not recognizing and understanding why those of us who voted for Prop 8 can possibly be so “hurtful” towards the LGBT community. For one, Hollywood and San Francisco are great examples of the immoral sewage that is spilling out of California, so it makes sense that these two places would support homosexuality.

Yes, it hurts for the LGBT community to be told that homosexuality is immoral.  But there are major differences in fighting for continuing immoral acts compared to fighting for civil rights of those with different skin colors from the majority.  An example is the 4Simpsons blog which gives a quick rundown on the why not to support those unions here.

See next post on Playing the Race Card on Gay Marriage to show why gay rights does not equal civil rights of the past.

November 10, 2008

Blacks experience racism from the LGBT Community!

Racism is reeling its ugly head as reports of anger by the LGBT community directed towards blacks is growing.  Looking for scapegoats in their anger and frustration is driving many gays to vent at those they blame.  The Mormon church has been getting the brunt of most of their frustrations but now many are turning their anger toward blacks and apparently, it doesn’t even matter if the blacks are on their side with their No on Prop 8 signs.

According to sites such as a gay blog, Rod 2.0, many blacks, gay and straight have been verbally abused by many gays.  One example is of Geoffrey, a black UCLA student who had joined the protest outside of the Mormon Temple in Los Angeles.  He said the following:

“It was like being at a klan rally except the klansmen were wearing Abercrombie polos and Birkenstocks. YOU N****R, one man shouted at men. If your people want to call me a FA****T, I will call you a n****r. Someone else said same thing to me on the next block near the temple…me and my friend were walking, he is also gay but Korean, and a young WeHo clone said after last night the n****rs better not come to West Hollywood if they knew what was BEST for them.

Two other black gay men who were even carrying No on Prop 8 signs during the protest, were still subjected to the racially verbal abuse when told:

Three older men accosted my friend and shouted, “Black people did this, I hope you people are happy!” A young lesbian couple with mohawks and Obama buttons joined the shouting and said there were “very disappointed with black people” and “how could we” after the Obama victory. This was stupid for them to single us out because we were carrying those blue NO ON PROP 8 signs! I pointed that out and the one of the older men said it didn’t matter because “most black people hated gays” and he was “wrong” to think we had compassion. That was the most insulting thing I had ever heard. I guess he never thought we were gay.

This racism was highlighted in an excellent article by ex-gay Christian activist James Hartline titled: Racism & Bigotry Are Big Components of Gay Leaders Fighting Prop. 8. Just viewing some of the comments on his blog it is apparent that many are in disbelief that this is even happening.

According to James’ article, even gay leader Wayne Besen makes some surprising comments regarding blacks who voted against gay marriage and for Prop 8 by saying in 365gay.com:

“I can understand why white gay people are angry. I certainly am.  But let’s take a step back and look at this dispassionately. I believe our failure with the African American vote (70 percent voted in favor of Prop.) has more to do with education levels than race. In general, people with lower levels of education – of any race – do not vote for gay rights. White people are twice as likely to graduate college as black people. This accounts for the difference by race on Prop. 8.”

and he continues:

“people with lower levels of education” do not vote for gay rights.

Now, this is from a man who has called for no racism on his organization’s blog, TruthWinsOut.org (TWO) when he says:

“It is reprehensible to look for scapegoats and target innocent people with vile racial epithets,” said TWO Executive Director, Wayne Besen.

It is apparent that Wayne Besen doesn’t understand the depth to his own racism.  Blacks are idiots who voted for Prop 8.  Just getting them educated is his theory.  Wow!  Please read James Hartline’s entire post on this subject!

I’m going to share my theory to why 70% blacks voted for Prop 8 and something that was recognized by even the black lesbian writer, Jasmyne Cannick in her Los Angeles Times editorial, No-on-8′s White Bias when she says:

“But the black civil rights movement was essentially born out of and driven by the black church; social justice and religion are inextricably intertwined in the black community. To many blacks, civil rights are grounded in Christianity — not something separate and apart from religion but synonymous with it. To the extent that the issue of gay marriage seemed to be pitted against the church, it was going to be a losing battle in my community.”

Here is a lesbian who gets it while white LGBT’s are busily demeaning the intelligence of black people by saying their lack of education is the reason.  No, the reason is because of the culture of Christianity which most blacks adhere to and the teaching that homosexuality as a sin.  There is no separation of one’s firm religious convictions and how they may vote on an issue.

Black ministers joined forces with other Christian pastors in getting the word out that Prop 8 was against what God has ordained: sex between a married man and a woman.  Of course, the black community has much to explain in why it’s babies out of wedlock and divorces are so high, but the fact remains that it at least recognizes that marriage between two same sexes isn’t the norm.

Spread the word: Blacks are not ignorant, they just happen to believe that homosexuality is sin accoriding to biblical teachings and that marriage of two immoral people is completely unacceptable.  It doesn’t take a PhD for a Christian to understand that.

So the message to the LGBT community is this: don’t waste your time “educating” black people unless you can convince someone that Jesus Christ never existed and His word is a book of fables.

© 2013 Christocentric All rights reserved - Mobile View - Powered by WordPress and Wallow - Have fun!
   Beat diabetes   Diabetes diet